{"id":15,"date":"2007-08-16T23:10:05","date_gmt":"2007-08-17T06:10:05","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/2007\/08\/16\/never-ending-updates\/"},"modified":"2007-08-16T23:10:05","modified_gmt":"2007-08-17T06:10:05","slug":"never-ending-updates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/never-ending-updates\/2007\/08\/16\/","title":{"rendered":"Never ending updates"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been using Archlinux on my two Thinkpads here for quite some time now. Its generally been OK. It&#8217;s quite quick and configurable without forcing Gnome or KDE in your face. It has a package manager and everything seems to be compiled for i686 or better. One of the reasons I started using it was that I had read it was like slackware with a package manager.<\/p>\n<p>But one thing that&#8217;s really annoyed me with it is the enormous quantity of updates. They have a rolling update model, so they don&#8217;t have major releases &#8230; you just keep on updating to the current packages. Most packages are very very recent. Almost too recent. Now, I don&#8217;t auto update generally, but from time to time I&#8217;ll run :<\/p>\n<p>pacman -Syu<\/p>\n<p>Before it installs anything it always tells me how much stuff it&#8217;s about to download. Most of the time this figure seems to be over 100MB. I know ADSL is fast but I always think &#8220;What is this 100MB going to do for me&#8221;.\u00a0 This morning, after not updating for a while (though I had updated some packages individually in teh past few weeks), I did the &#8216;pacman -Syu&#8217; again and it told me it wanted to download 333MB.\u00a0 That is just plain sad. I noticed openoffice was in the list of updates, so I deleted it (I never used it). Ran pacman again and this time it wanted 240MB of updates.\u00a0 I reluctantly said Yes and did the updates. Interestingly, things like glibc, gtk and xorg were in the list. All huge packages &#8230; which if you understand the build structure of a linux distro &#8230; you&#8217;ll know that these sorts of things underly a lot of other packages.<\/p>\n<p>So what did I get after the updates .. exactly the same &#8230; except I can&#8217;t seem to run a lot of jpeg viewers. Most of them seem to hang now. I&#8217;ve been trawling the archlinux forums for someone with similar probs and I can&#8217;t really find anything useful.<\/p>\n<p>What I really want is archlinux but only with security updates. I&#8217;ve been looking but I can&#8217;t find anything like that. I could go back to slackware &#8230; but I&#8217;d really miss the package manager.<\/p>\n<p>So, as a quick comparison, I&#8217;ve put Kubuntu on a spare partition on my T42. I&#8217;ll see how it goes. Ubuntu\/Kubuntu is meant to be a faster i686 distro, it&#8217;s got a decent package manager, but its got a clunky old startup system &#8230; and probably tries to be too user friendly for my liking. I&#8217;ll see how it goes.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been using Archlinux on my two Thinkpads here for quite some time now. Its generally been OK. It&#8217;s quite quick and configurable without forcing Gnome or KDE in your face. It has a package manager and everything seems to be compiled for i686 or better. One of the reasons I started using it was [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-15","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=15"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/15\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=15"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=15"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.kernelcrash.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=15"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}